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Sid Celery

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Message 113252 - Posted: 17 Dec 2025, 11:58:39 UTC - in response to Message 113251.  
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Milan/Bergamo, Paris & London
And today Cardiff and back - a little less glamorous

Welcome to Italy!! :-P

Yes, next to your part of the world. Only 3 full days and hard to see anything much. Some friends went to Como, one to Monza.
I had 2 days in Milan and just one in Bergamo, then only half a day in Paris, half a day at home in Birmingham before 3 days in London.
My legs are in shreds...

In the meantime, maybe something like an extra 120k tasks? Hard to tell exactly.
Less than a day's worth, but still some left to grab for a few hours more

Yeap.
And seems that checkpoint is not so good.

I haven't had time to notice. I'm mainly making space for Rosetta tasks to come down by clearing up all other project tasks first as the machines I have close to me saw very little of the previous batch of tasks
A few more tasks seem to have been added to this batch. Maybe 30k. It all helps
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Message 113253 - Posted: 17 Dec 2025, 12:05:43 UTC - in response to Message 113252.  
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My legs are in shreds...

Are you implying that you're walking all these distances?

Sorry, low hanging fruit, had to pick it :))



In the meantime, work seems to be trickling along fine. I've filled up my rigs with Rosetta again, hope this run lasts a while.
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Message 113254 - Posted: 17 Dec 2025, 14:42:08 UTC - in response to Message 113253.  

My legs are in shreds...

Are you implying that you're walking all these distances?

I can be infamous for poor writing like that.
A short metro from Susa to San Babila in Milan, then walked everywhere over two days
A drive and park to Bergamo and walk around Citta Alta
Return to Milan for an early flight to Paris. Only 6hrs of free time there
Lots of walking in London, packing 7 visits into Thursday afternoon
The rest of the time I spent sitting in front of a PC waiting for my legs to stop throbbing
Recovered sufficiently to drive to and walk around Cardiff, returning at 2am this morning.
Off to London again tomorrow to work 7 days straight before Christmas.
Hopefully very little walking involved - just 10hr days...

In the meantime, work seems to be trickling along fine. I've filled up my rigs with Rosetta again, hope this run lasts a while

For the moment. I doubt it'll last much longer tbh - perhaps an hour or two at most unless more get added to the queue
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Message 113256 - Posted: 17 Dec 2025, 18:54:36 UTC - in response to Message 113254.  
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In the meantime, work seems to be trickling along fine. I've filled up my rigs with Rosetta again, hope this run lasts a while

For the moment. I doubt it'll last much longer tbh - perhaps an hour or two at most unless more get added to the queue

Yup, that's our lot for this batch from an hour or two back
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Message 113258 - Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 3:29:42 UTC

Doing my very best Tsgt. Fred Kwan imitation...
Just FYI...I kind of put a new computer online today. Did a fresh install of a different distribution.
The addition to the /etc/hosts file is definitely still needed.
That being:
128.95.160.156 boinc-files.bakerlab.org
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Message 113259 - Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 4:59:55 UTC

I run my computer about 18 hours a day. If Rosettta package is not finished during that time it restarts in the morning. This means I hardly ever am abel to finish any pacgages before deadline.

What is wrong with me or sy settings or whatever?

PS Pardon my bad english.

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Message 113260 - Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 8:12:28 UTC - in response to Message 113259.  

I run my computer about 18 hours a day. If Rosettta package is not finished during that time it restarts in the morning. This means I hardly ever am abel to finish any pacgages before deadline.

What is wrong with me or sy settings or whatever?
The default processing time for most Rosetta Tasks is 8 hours. For Rosetta Beta Tasks it's generally 6 hours (but it can be 8 hours).
It's taking your system 6.5hrs to do only 4hrs of work (so that'd be 13hrs for only 8 hrs of actual work being done).

eg
RosettaVS_SAVE_ALL_OUT_NOJRAN_M2_real_specificity_fulldb_IGNORE_THE_REST_BwiIOn_6_908_3022820_2_0
Run time  6 hours 24 min 45 sec
CPU time  4 hours 3 min  6 sec
In your account settings, under Preferences, When and how BOINC uses your computer Computing preferences, make sure
"Use at most xxx % of CPU time" is set to 100% If it is, then check with Task Manager to see what else is running on your system and making heavy use of the CPU.
If it is set to a lower value due to problems with the laptop cooling, then better to set it to 100%, and reduce the number of cores/threads BOINC uses (Use at most xxx% of the CPUs), set it to 50% or so and see how things go.

Also, under Other,
Set "Store at least xxx days of work to 0.25" or similar, and "Store up to an additional xxx days of work to 0.01".
As you are running multiple projects, on a system with a relatively low maximum boost clock, and very thermally limited, you'd be better off with the smallest cache possible- much less chance of deadline issues.

Make sure that under When to suspend, "Suspend when computer is in use " is not selected, and "Suspend when non-BOINC CPU usage is above xxx %" is best left blank (or ---).
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Message 113261 - Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 9:18:15 UTC - in response to Message 113260.  

Thanks!

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Message 113262 - Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 11:46:52 UTC - in response to Message 113259.  

I run my computer about 18 hours a day. If Rosetta package is not finished during that time it restarts in the morning. This means I hardly ever am able to finish any packages before deadline.

What is wrong with me or my settings or whatever?

All of Grant's advice is good if there's a possibility that your settings might be a problem. Everything he's suggested will help.
But there's also a possibility the tasks themselves are causing problems, so I've taken a closer look at them on my laptop, which has reported some problems.

Each task has a very large memory requirement - from 1-1.3Gb each.
1 run 50% of 16 threads - 8 at a time on my 16Gb laptop - and sometimes 2 of the 8 tasks have suspended, reporting "waiting for memory"

Also, checkpointing is very poor. Some tasks are reporting 1hr since the last checkpoint. Others have been running for 2h 30m and haven't checkpointed at all.
So, when you shutdown for the night, it's very possible your tasks will restart from the beginning in the morning, which is exactly what you're reporting.

I also notice that your completed tasks are reporting just "1 decoy" being completed.
Long-running decoys within tasks that rarely checkpoint is a problem with the tasks much more than with your settings.

The one setting you can use, which might help, is ensuring that "Leave non-GPU tasks in memory while suspended" is ticked.
If you don't already have that ticked, it will help.
If you already have that ticked, I don't think there's anything more you can do.
It's the tasks themselves that are creating the problem you have in my opinion.
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Message 113263 - Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 15:18:53 UTC - in response to Message 113256.  
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In the meantime, work seems to be trickling along fine. I've filled up my rigs with Rosetta again, hope this run lasts a while

For the moment. I doubt it'll last much longer tbh - perhaps an hour or two at most unless more get added to the queue

Yup, that's our lot for this batch from an hour or two back


The incredible thing is that in a semi-abandoned (by the administrators) project , the volunteers are so ready and numerous that they (we) "burn" the work queues in just a few hours.
If they give us work to do, we do it.
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