Message boards : Number crunching : ram problems
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Evan Send message Joined: 23 Dec 05 Posts: 268 Credit: 402,585 RAC: 0 |
I tried to increase my ram by adding a second 512 ddr strip. As a test I ran Rosetta several times together with further programs so as to stress the memory. Each time it failed producing an invalid result . I ran the new memory alone and it works ok. Could the problem be an incompatibility between the old unit PMI(Pqi) and the new one - Kingston? My computer is a P4 2.5GHz with 512 mb ram 133 MHz Any ideas please? |
Luuklag Send message Joined: 13 Sep 07 Posts: 262 Credit: 4,171 RAC: 0 |
I tried to increase my ram by adding a second 512 ddr strip. As a test I ran Rosetta several times together with further programs so as to stress the memory. Each time it failed producing an invalid result . I ran the new memory alone and it works ok. Could the problem be an incompatibility between the old unit PMI(Pqi) and the new one - Kingston? both ar the same ddr thing like ddr2 and ddr3? could cause trouble with some mainboards. |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,688,048 RAC: 10,544 |
the wrong type of memory wouldn't fit in the board. I'd recommend you create a memtest CD and run that (it's always useful to have). Also, are the memory settings in the BIOS set to Auto? If not, you might want to reduce the timings. Post back if that doesn't make any sense to you! |
Evan Send message Joined: 23 Dec 05 Posts: 268 Credit: 402,585 RAC: 0 |
Thanks for those suggestions. How do I set the memory to auto? I ran both memtest86+ and I found similar errors for old, new and combined ram. I also ran memtest (windows) and it passed on both singles but failed on the combined. It said pair 71733072 does not store values correctly. |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,688,048 RAC: 10,544 |
there will probably be an option for it in the BIOS, but there also might not. If you can post a link to the manual for your motherboard, or the motherboard model number then we can have a look. |
Evan Send message Joined: 23 Dec 05 Posts: 268 Credit: 402,585 RAC: 0 |
The mother board is Matsonic MS9147C |
P . P . L . Send message Joined: 20 Aug 06 Posts: 581 Credit: 4,865,274 RAC: 0 |
I had the same problem a while ago with two sticks of ddr400, different brands. The timmings where different and they would work on thier own but not together, Ended up buying a matched pair of ddr400 512mb that solved the problem. You can use cpuz to check the speed etc. Pete. |
Evan Send message Joined: 23 Dec 05 Posts: 268 Credit: 402,585 RAC: 0 |
Thanks for that tip. I checked with cpuz and found that there were a number of differences in the cache latency test. I think the best option is to trade the new one in for a single 1 GB stick. Evan |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,688,048 RAC: 10,544 |
you should be ok if you set the latency manually in the BIOS to the higher (i.e. higher latency) settings of the two sticks. The two sticks might also be running in dual-channel mode (different to DDR/Dual-Data Rate) depending on whether the motherboard supports it. Dual Channel has a reasonable (~5%) performance benefit on all computers prior to the Core2 architecture (where it appears to have little benefit). HTH Danny |
DJStarfox Send message Joined: 19 Jul 07 Posts: 145 Credit: 1,250,162 RAC: 0 |
I tried to increase my ram by adding a second 512 ddr strip. As a test I ran Rosetta several times together with further programs so as to stress the memory. Each time it failed producing an invalid result . I ran the new memory alone and it works ok. Could the problem be an incompatibility between the old unit PMI(Pqi) and the new one - Kingston? The PMI and Kingston use different voltages, but your motherboard has to pick just one. Wrong voltage may allow it to work, but the ram will have CRC errors. Find out what voltage and CL speed your PMI ram is, and get a matching stick for it. |
Evan Send message Joined: 23 Dec 05 Posts: 268 Credit: 402,585 RAC: 0 |
Problem solved. I traded in the new 512 strip for a 1 GB strip and all works well. Many thanks to all for their assistance. Evan |
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