4000 credit wus?

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Xaak Send message Joined: 20 Mar 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,701,702 RAC: 0	Message 47654 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 21:57:55 UTC Sorry, but something isn't quite right here. Was perusing a few of the faster machines, and ran across this. Several others on the same computer too: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=562651&offset=40 Is this a bug or has someone found a potential cheat? XaaK Join Us XaaK ID: 47654 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Jmarks Send message Joined: 16 Jul 07 Posts: 132 Credit: 98,025 RAC: 0	Message 47655 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 22:11:25 UTC If you look at the WU ids it say 'Rosetta Beta' They report on seporate board, not here. Jmarks ID: 47655 · Rating: -2 · rate: / Reply Quote

dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,675,695 RAC: 11,002	Message 47656 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 22:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 47655. Last modified: 12 Oct 2007, 22:22:11 UTC If you look at the WU ids it say 'Rosetta Beta' They report on seporate board, not here. it's a bit confusing (i posted saying I thought that label would cause problems when they first released 'beta' WUs!) The 'beta' WUs aren't part of Ralph (the alpha test project) which is reported seperately. We're all running some of the beta-labelled WUs here - they're part of Rosetta and so those results will be counted here. The error on those results is the phenomenal number of decoys being reported... HTH Danny ID: 47656 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Nothing But Idle Time Send message Joined: 28 Sep 05 Posts: 209 Credit: 139,545 RAC: 0	Message 47657 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 22:21:25 UTC Last modified: 12 Oct 2007, 22:22:20 UTC How does one get more than 1000 decoys in just three hours? Tell me the secret; inquiring minds want to know. ID: 47657 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,675,695 RAC: 11,002	Message 47658 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 22:22:40 UTC Last modified: 12 Oct 2007, 22:23:06 UTC you have to have some corrupt files ;) or could this be a syncing issue between the cores? ID: 47658 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Xaak Send message Joined: 20 Mar 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,701,702 RAC: 0	Message 47659 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 23:06:17 UTC They're certainly being reported here, and they're calculated into the computer's RAC. And the computer's being granted well over 400 times what a similar processor is producing for the same runtime. XaaK ID: 47659 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

zombie67 [MM] Send message Joined: 11 Feb 06 Posts: 316 Credit: 6,621,003 RAC: 0	Message 47663 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 0:25:45 UTC Sweet! I want some of those too. =;^) Reno, NV Team: SETI.USA ID: 47663 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natronomonas Send message Joined: 11 Jan 06 Posts: 38 Credit: 536,978 RAC: 0	Message 47667 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 1:00:01 UTC - in response to Message 47663. The computer isn't claiming many credits, just being granted many... maybe because of the high decoy count, but it doesn't think they're worth that much...?? Crunching Rosetta as a member of the Whirlpool BOINC Teams ID: 47667 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,675,695 RAC: 11,002	Message 47668 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 1:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 47667. The computer isn't claiming many credits, just being granted many... maybe because of the high decoy count, but it doesn't think they're worth that much...?? yeah - the claim is based on benchmarks * time (both normal) while the granted is based on Nr decoys * average claim for that type of decoy. HTH Danny ID: 47668 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Xaak Send message Joined: 20 Mar 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,701,702 RAC: 0	Message 47670 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 3:40:30 UTC Ok, this is getting rediculous. an 8500 credit wu? Why only his machine? https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=111686926 He has a number of errored wus, so either the client is registering errored decoys as successfully completed, or he's hacking the result to show way too many decoys. Can someone from the project have a look and comment please? XaaK ID: 47670 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Xaak Send message Joined: 20 Mar 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,701,702 RAC: 0	Message 47671 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 5:25:38 UTC Found another one: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=567404&offset=20 Maybe the credit/decoy ratio on these are way off? XaaK ID: 47671 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,675,695 RAC: 11,002	Message 47672 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 9:45:55 UTC Xaak, I doubt anyone from the project will look at it until after the weekend. They can change anything retrospectively though... ID: 47672 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Jmarks Send message Joined: 16 Jul 07 Posts: 132 Credit: 98,025 RAC: 0	Message 47674 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 11:32:08 UTC - in response to Message 47672. Xaak, I doubt anyone from the project will look at it until after the weekend. They can change anything retrospectively though... They are all have 2168 in them. If they are not ralph's then we should post them to the Problems with 5.80? Jmarks ID: 47674 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Jmarks Send message Joined: 16 Jul 07 Posts: 132 Credit: 98,025 RAC: 0	Message 47677 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 11:49:43 UTC - in response to Message 47674. Xaak, I doubt anyone from the project will look at it until after the weekend. They can change anything retrospectively though... They are all have 2168 in them. If they are not ralph's then we should post them to the Problems with 5.80? I just did. Jmarks ID: 47677 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Conan Send message Joined: 11 Oct 05 Posts: 150 Credit: 4,224,807 RAC: 3,024	Message 47679 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 13:18:11 UTC - in response to Message 47671. Found another one: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=567404&offset=20 Maybe the credit/decoy ratio on these are way off? I don't believe the owner knows anything about this as all the WU's making the huge claims all have the same name, they all start with mcr1, for example mcr1__BOINC_SYMM_FOLD_AND_DOCK_RELAX-mcr1_-short_mfr__2168_67176_0 On the other side of the coin the same computer is getting a lot of stuck WU's that are being terminated by the Watchdog that start with STM0082_BOINC_MFR_ABRELAX_PICKED_ and they get just 20 credits for each of these WU's. ID: 47679 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Xaak Send message Joined: 20 Mar 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,701,702 RAC: 0	Message 47681 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 14:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 47672. Xaak, I doubt anyone from the project will look at it until after the weekend. They can change anything retrospectively though... I didn't mean this minute :-). XaaK ID: 47681 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Mod.Sense Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Aug 06 Posts: 4018 Credit: 0 RAC: 0	Message 47683 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 14:57:13 UTC I sent an EMail last night to David Kim and request a review of the situation. Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense ID: 47683 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Xaak Send message Joined: 20 Mar 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,701,702 RAC: 0	Message 47686 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 15:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 47683. I sent an EMail last night to David Kim and request a review of the situation. Thanks! XaaK ID: 47686 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote