I've got seti@home working i've tried climate , rosetta and i get the same error message as above what have i done wrong??

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What is your disk space setting set to, on your general perferences page?

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Try these setting

Disk and memory usage
Use no more than 30 GB disk space
Leave at least 0.1 GB disk space free
Use no more than 85% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 360 seconds
Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory

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BOINC Wiki

By the way, I think since the default setting of 'now 100GB of disk space' is both overkill and misleading.

When I first joined I had the same problem... My computer has 30gig of space, so it wouldn't download any work. Because the phrasing of the option is so confusing I kept on trying to add more space in the preference, wondering what sort of project would use 500gigs. Only when I turned it down to less than the ammount of free space I had on my HD did it start to work.

Now, if you take into consideration that 1)most people don't have a 100Gb of free space and 2)all that required messing around with the settings may distract and discourage new users and 3)at the end of the day Rosetta roughtly takes 15megs - one wonder why that setting doesn't have a default of say, a hundred meg only.

Any thoughts?

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I've just got a new pc and it did pull down a couple of tasks which it completed but i started getting the below error.... i've tried the settings suggested by JDK but still the same problem

LOG
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rosetta@home|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
rosetta@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
rosetta@home|Message from server: (there was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated)
rosetta@home|Message from server: Not enough disk space (only 89.4 MB free for BOINC). Review preferences for minimum disk free space allowed.
rosetta@home|Deferring communication for 1 hr 0 min 0 sec
rosetta@home|Reason: requested by project

My Settings
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Use at most 30 GB disk space
Leave at least 0.1 GB disk space free
Use at most 85% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 60 seconds
Use at most 75% of page file (swap space)
Use at most 50% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most 90% of memory when computer is idle

any help welcome as i've tried all sorts of different settings now.
Pete

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Petern, if you have the new 5.8 version of BOINC, go to the "advanced" view (if you are on the older 5.4 version then all you HAVE is the advanced view). Click the disk tab... how much space is BOINC taking??

Now open windows explorer (not internet explorer) and right click on the disk drive where BOINC is installed and select properties, how much space does the drive have? And how much space is available on it?

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Yes i have the new 5.8 version

Boinc reports :
Free space 134.82 GB
Used by boink 0 bytes
Other progs 14.14 GB
in the other window - rosetta@home 0 bytes

explorer reports the same results. I did wonder if it was due to a dell partition which has some configuration but that's only 55 meg with 40 free and doesn't have a drive letter assigned.

initially Boinc does pick up the correct drive though:
- Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
- Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 3.85 GB virtual
- Disk: 148.96 GB total, 134.83 GB free

Thanks for any help

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The only other thing I can think of is that these preferences may be defined for up to 4 specific "locations". When viewing your general preferences are there any preferences shows for any of the specific locations, school, work, home? And at the very top page of the messages in the BOINC messages tab, you will see two messages such as this:

2/3/2007 2:40:09 PM||Host location: none
2/3/2007 2:40:09 PM||General prefs: using your defaults

So your computer might think it is "home" and use preferences for "home", but the preferences you reported might be for "default".

Other then that, the only thing I can think of would be if you modified some of the .XML files that BOINC uses on your machine. I would have to suggest you reinstall BOINC to see if that resets everything.

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Running Microsoft's "System Idle Process" will never help cure cancer, AIDS nor Alzheimer's. But running Rosetta@home just might!
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no, seems to be using the correct settings....

||Host location: work
||General prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults

I've not modified any xml, i tried a re-install already..... my next step is to find a download for the previous version but not had any lucj with that either ! grrrr

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ahhh, it's just downloaded some new tasks!
I uninstalled and re-installed but it did the same thing.
I then uninstalled again and deleted boinc folder (and for completness downloaded the install program again), re-installed and touch wood, it seems ok..... must have had a squiff xml file?

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After upgrading to latest BOINC manager and (I assume this is done automatically) the latest Rosetta client, Rosetta server refuses to send me any work. I have 5.66 GB free out of 28.5 GB on my C: drive, of which BOINC is currently using 72.38 MB, including 5.77 MB for SETI and 61.12 MB left over from the last Rosetta project (which was aborted because it was overdue anyway).

My global preferences are to use at most 1 GB, leave at least 0.2 GB free, and use at most 80 percent of total space. SETI is set to use 20% of resources, and Rosetta 80% (these were set after aborting the task, which obviously had not gotten enough CPU time, especially with my computer powered down for four days due to T.S. Fay).

The following number was significantly larger (340 MB) before expanding the resources, but it has not been reduced to zero. Both projects have been UPDATEd, SUSPENDed and then RESUMEd, and Rosetta has even had NO NEW TASKS followed by ALLOW NEW TASKS, since the preferences were updated on both web sites.

Pasted from both (matched character by character):
Global preferences (same for both SETI@home and Rosetta@home)
Disk and memory usage
Use at most 1 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.2 GB disk space free
Use at most 80% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 60 seconds
Use at most 50% of page file (swap space)
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8+ 40% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8+ 80% of memory when computer is not in use

Pasted from SETI web site:
SETI@home preferences
Resource share
If you participate in multiple BOINC projects, this is the proportion of your resources
used by SETI@home 20
Is it OK for SETI@home and your team (if any) to email you?
Emails will be sent from setiweb@ssl.berkeley.edu;
make sure your spam filter accepts this address. yes
Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site? no
Default computer location home
Graphics preferences
Select Custom to edit individual parameters SETI@home classic
Color preferences:
Select Custom to edit individual parameters Rainbow
URL of background image
This image (JPEG, Targa, BMP or PPM format)
will be displayed in the background. none
URL of logo image
This image (JPEG, Targa, BMP or PPM format)
will be displayed in the lower corner. none
Run only the selected applications SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse: yes
If no work for selected applications is available,
accept work from other applications? yes

Pasted from Rosetta web site:
Rosetta@home preferences
Resource share
If you participate in multiple BOINC projects, this is the proportion of your resources
used by Rosetta@home 80
Is it OK for Rosetta@home and your team (if any) to email you?
Emails will be sent from Rosetta/BOINC Admin ;
make sure your spam filter accepts this address. yes
Should Rosetta@home show your computers on its web site? no
Default computer location home
Percentage of CPU time used for graphics 20
Number of frames per second for graphics 20
Target CPU run time 4 hours

Pasted from message log after above changes were applied:
9/3/2008 14:28:09|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
9/3/2008 14:28:14|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
9/3/2008 14:35:30|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
9/3/2008 14:35:35|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
9/3/2008 14:40:48||Resuming computation
9/3/2008 14:40:50|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 959 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
9/3/2008 14:40:55|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
9/3/2008 14:40:55|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
9/3/2008 14:40:55|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
9/3/2008 14:40:55|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 263 MB is needed.
9/3/2008 14:45:01|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 957 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
9/3/2008 14:45:06|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
9/3/2008 14:45:06|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
9/3/2008 14:45:06|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
9/3/2008 14:45:06|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 263 MB is needed.
9/3/2008 14:49:11|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 955 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
9/3/2008 14:49:16|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
9/3/2008 14:49:16|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
9/3/2008 14:49:16|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
9/3/2008 14:49:16|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 263 MB is needed.
9/3/2008 14:53:22|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 953 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
9/3/2008 14:53:27|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
9/3/2008 14:53:27|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
9/3/2008 14:53:27|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
9/3/2008 14:53:27|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 263 MB is needed.
9/3/2008 14:57:32|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 951 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
9/3/2008 14:57:37|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
9/3/2008 14:57:37|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
9/3/2008 14:57:37|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
9/3/2008 14:57:37|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 263 MB is needed.

Any ideas how to get some work from Rosetta?

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Which BOINC version are you running now? What version of BOINC were you running before this started occuring?

What platform (Windows, Linux, Mac) are you running?

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

Windows XP with SP3; BOINC 6.2.16 when problem first appeared, upgraded to 6.2.18 which did not change the result. After moving all files in the Rosetta data file folder to recycle bin (not total delete), to synch with the aborted task, message changed from 263 MB needed to 202 MB needed.

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Rosetta's work units are tagged indicating they COULD grow to as large as 500MB. In practice, they generally are only about 250K (.25MB), but BOINC is looking at the maximum. And you are running several projects, and so BOINC is also looking at the resource shares. You have allowed up to 1GB for BOINC, but BOINC wants to keep Rosetta within the fraction of that 1GB which corresponds to your resoruce share for Rosetta.

Basically you need to increase your setting for the amount of disk BOINC is allowed to use, to allow Rosetta's fair share of that maximum to leave Rosetta with about 750MB. More if you are keeping a cache of work on hand.

The newer BOINC clients are enforcing the disk space limitations a little differently then they used to. I just discussed this with DK, and he's modified the settings so that as new tasks are created in the future, they will use a maximum of 300MB rather then the prior 500MB. This will help your situation, but only once the older tasks are processed.

In the short term, increase the amount of disk space you will allow BOINC to use, and set your minimum available space if you wish to assure it doesn't conflict with your day to day use of this machine.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

The newer BOINC clients are enforcing the disk space limitations a little differently then they used to. I just discussed this with DK, and he's modified the settings so that as new tasks are created in the future, they will use a maximum of 300MB rather then the prior 500MB. This will help your situation, but only once the older tasks are processed.

In the short term, increase the amount of disk space you will allow BOINC to use, and set your minimum available space if you wish to assure it doesn't conflict with your day to day use of this machine.

Since a couple of days I face the same problem (BOINC 5.10.4, WinXP, SP3).


2008-09-09 11:51:10|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
2008-09-09 11:51:10|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
2008-09-09 11:51:10|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 57 MB is needed.


My free disk space is (Windowsexplorer) 537 MB.
After this an reading this thread I set in Extras > Einstellungen > Nutzung von Festplatte und Speicher the value for
"Nutze höchstens" from 1 GB down to 0,30 GB
Lasse mindestens 0,10 frei
and confirmed with clicking on button "Bestätigen".
Then I executed "Extras > Kommunikation wiederholen" and got the following msgs, this time requesting and additional 280 MB disk space (before only an additional for 57 MB were required, see above):

2008-09-09 12:13:32|rosetta@home|Computation for task rb_09_05_12205_22033_T0476_tri_IGNORE_THE_REST_03_09_4458_131795_0 finished
2008-09-09 12:13:34|rosetta@home|Started upload of rb_09_05_12205_22033_T0476_tri_IGNORE_THE_REST_03_09_4458_131795_0_0
2008-09-09 12:13:38|rosetta@home|Finished upload of rb_09_05_12205_22033_T0476_tri_IGNORE_THE_REST_03_09_4458_131795_0_0
2008-09-09 13:01:19||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 07-Jun-2005 13:24:58)
2008-09-09 13:01:19||Host location: none
2008-09-09 13:01:19||General prefs: using your defaults
2008-09-09 13:01:19||Reading preferences override file
2008-09-09 13:01:19||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1019.36MB
2008-09-09 13:01:19||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1834.85MB
2008-09-09 13:01:19||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.28GB
2008-09-09 13:01:40|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
2008-09-09 13:01:45|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2008-09-09 13:01:45|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
2008-09-09 13:01:45|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
2008-09-09 13:01:45|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 280 MB is needed.
2008-09-09 13:13:14||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 07-Jun-2005 13:24:58)
2008-09-09 13:13:14||Host location: none
2008-09-09 13:13:14||General prefs: using your defaults
2008-09-09 13:13:14||Reading preferences override file
2008-09-09 13:13:14||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1019.36MB
2008-09-09 13:13:14||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1834.85MB
2008-09-09 13:13:14||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.28GB
2008-09-09 13:20:51||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 07-Jun-2005 13:24:58)
2008-09-09 13:20:51||Host location: none
2008-09-09 13:20:51||General prefs: using your defaults
2008-09-09 13:20:51||Reading preferences override file
2008-09-09 13:20:51||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1019.36MB
2008-09-09 13:20:51||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1834.85MB
2008-09-09 13:20:51||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.28GB



What is going on?
BOINC uses at the moment 84,32 MB of disk space (Tab "Festplatte" in BOINC-Mgr)

Gruß, Gerhard

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Gruß, Gerhard

Hello Gerhard, I don't understand the German, but the message indicates that BOINC is limited to .28GB. It says "Preferences limit disk usage to 0.28GB", and that's not enough. There are three preferences for disk:
use at most GB
leave at least
and use at most %

It sounds like you changed your second one, but that the first one is the problem.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

Hello Gerhard, I don't understand the German, but the message indicates that BOINC is limited to .28GB. It says "Preferences limit disk usage to 0.28GB", and that's not enough. There are three preferences for disk:
use at most GB
leave at least
and use at most %

It sounds like you changed your second one, but that the first one is the problem.

OK, i'll try to translate.
For the first option I had before 1 GB disk space maximum in the options, but since my C-disk has only 537 MB left, I restricted the first value in the options to .30 GB - I cannot give all I have (.5 GB) für BOINC.
The second entry is how much at least should be left free on disk: I set it to ,1 GB (100 MB).
The third entry is maximal 50% of disk space
the fourth write to disk not more often than 60 secs
the fifth: Use a maximum of 75% of swap

This new values I used because with the 1GB for the first option (max disk space) I found recently the error messages mentioned before "There was work but not enough disk space ..." and reading this thread I thought that I promised BOINC with 1GB too much, because in reality there is only 537 MB.
After I set those new values I repeated the communication and got new messages, that now not only
"2008-09-09 11:51:10|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 57 MB is needed."
but
"2008-09-09 13:01:45|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 280 MB is needed."
At the moment BOINC uses 22,30 MB (as displayed on tab "Disk" of BOINC-Mgr).
My calculation: BOINC uses 22,30 MB for the program, I allow all together 300 MB, so about 270 MB are free for workunits and crunching. The server reports that another 280 MB is required - together 280 + 270 more than 0,5 GB. BOINC was running until now since years without problems in respect to disk space.

In Message 55550 (see there) is written, that "Rosetta's work units are tagged indicating they COULD grow to as large as 500MB. In practice, they generally are only about 250K (.25MB)(!!!!!), but BOINC is looking at the maximum." So what now? I have not more disk space, I set the options according to the available disk space - and BOINC is still not satisfied. Why BOINC tries to download workunits that will consume such a big amount of diskspace if in settings it is clearly said there is only 300 MB disk place left reserved for BOINC? If BOINC doesn't care for the settings, what is then the use of those settings? And finally: What to do that crunching is going on?

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Gruß, Gerhard

Does the community consider this problem as settled?
One of my workstations now for more than a week didn't crunch a single workunit.
Today same as last days only messages, claiming more diskspace in different amount, are displayed:

2008-09-15 10:12:49||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.45 for windows_intelx86
2008-09-15 10:12:49||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Data directory: C:ProgrammeBOINC
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3]
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx
2008-09-15 10:12:49||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Memory: 1.99 GB physical, 3.84 GB virtual
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Disk: 16.00 GB total, 297.00 MB free
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Local time is UTC +2 hours
2008-09-15 10:12:49|rosetta@home|URL: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID: 244231; location: work; project prefs: default
2008-09-15 10:12:49|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 2403856; location: (none); project prefs: default
2008-09-15 10:12:49||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 07-Jun-2005 13:24:58)
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Host location: none
2008-09-15 10:12:49||General prefs: using your defaults
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Reading preferences override file
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1019.36MB
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1834.85MB
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.20GB
2008-09-15 10:12:49||Running CPU benchmarks
2008-09-15 10:13:21||Benchmark results:
2008-09-15 10:13:21|| Number of CPUs: 2
2008-09-15 10:13:21|| 1338 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2008-09-15 10:13:21|| 2004 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
2008-09-15 10:13:25|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2008-09-15 10:13:30|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2008-09-15 10:13:30|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
2008-09-15 10:13:30|rosetta@home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
2008-09-15 10:13:30|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 117 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:17:50|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 121 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:22:01|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 128 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:26:11|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 125 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:30:21|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 135 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:34:31|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 138 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:38:41|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 133 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:44:06|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 106 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 10:53:46|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 107 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 11:00:52|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 107 MB is needed.
...
2008-09-15 11:27:23|rosetta@home|Message from server: An additional 108 MB is needed.

Gruß, Gerhard

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Gruß, Gerhard

Basically you need to increase your setting for the amount of disk BOINC is allowed to use, to allow Rosetta's fair share of that maximum to leave Rosetta with about 750MB. More if you are keeping a cache of work on hand.

Gerhard, you do not have enough disk space to allow Rosetta to have 750MB.

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Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense

Basically you need to increase your setting for the amount of disk BOINC is allowed to use, to allow Rosetta's fair share of that maximum to leave Rosetta with about 750MB. More if you are keeping a cache of work on hand.

Gerhard, you do not have enough disk space to allow Rosetta to have 750MB.

Why should I allow 750MB for "fair share" (what is this?) if I have only 500 MB left?! I set the options to 0.2 GB for BOINC! If this is not enough BOING mgr should not allow such settings and indicate a minimum.

More if you are keeping a cache of work on hand

What is this? "a cache of work on hand"??

In practice, they generally are only about 250K (.25MB)

Why then the settings in options? If I set 0,2 GB disk space BOINC should manage to operate with this! Otherwise those settings have no meaning, if set to 0.2 GB, but BOINC (or you) ask for 750 MB.

Please answer the question if those required 750MB are a worst case scenario of a gigantomanic, invasive piece of software, needing just 0,25 MB to do the job but reserving a 3000fold (that is, 300000% - in words: threehunderthousand percent) in andvance, because maybe perhaps there could be the situation that such an amount will be needed?

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Gruß, Gerhard