YEP!!!!

The RAC of my Dual Xeon 5335 2.6GHz machine is over 3000 :)

Is anybody got this before?

Who?

PS for Matt: I am still running without Hyperslowtransport.

Cheers!

YEP!!!!

The RAC of my Dual Xeon 5335 2.6GHz machine is over 3000 :)

@Who?

I was looking at the Xeon 5335 and I noticed you are running each WU about 2-3 hours. I'm just wondering why you have the runtime set at this level especially with such a fast machine. In your opinion, why the short runtime? and why not say 24 hours? Just Curious...

Tim

BTW, congrats on the 3K!

@Who?

I was looking at the Xeon 5335 and I noticed you are running each WU about 2-3 hours. I'm just wondering why you have the runtime set at this level especially with such a fast machine. In your opinion, why the short runtime? and why not say 24 hours? Just Curious...

Tim

BTW, congrats on the 3K!

default is 3hrs ;-)

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Team mauisun.org

What is the difference between your 4 cpu machine getting 2600 credits/day compared to my lab computers that are only getting 700/day (with 2 cpus, but still well slower than your quad)? I'm sure it's not the .26ghz :)

Yours:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=341221

Mine:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=364366

The 3000 machine you talk about is almost identical to mine in credits/cpu-day:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=366022

I'm not suggesting anything. . other than what CPU to buy if you can really pull off 650 credits a day per cpu :)

-E

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Ethan - I think that one's @4GHz

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Ethan - I think that one's @4GHz

Ethan, form other post, it's chilled and running at 4GHz, not the default 2.66GHz ;-)


and I do like the ... only getting 700/day ... part.

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Team mauisun.org

I just thought I'd congratulate Who? on the score of 3000 per day - all my machines together are getting around 3000 per day... :-(

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Mats

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Ethan - I think that one's @4GHz

Ethan, form other post, it's chilled and running at 4GHz, not the default 2.66GHz ;-)


and I do like the ... only getting 700/day ... part.

I thought that was the single socket machine at pos 2 in the list.

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default is 3hrs ;-)

ah, but that's way too easy ;)

yes, the other machine is running at 4Ghz and gets a RAC close to 2600, it is rock stable for 2 months now. (I am typing this message with this machine, I don t feel rosetta in back ground, the machine is responsive as if nothing was happening in the back ground)

Very soon, i ll apply the same treatment to the Dual Xeon, it requires more Hack since Xeons are locks ... From what i saw, the overclocking can be as good as the QX6700

I am running 2 hours per units, because when i am tunning the overclocking, i don t want to damage the rosetta database, so, i work on small chuncks. the computing errors are never good for Rosetta. I try to avoid them as much as i can.

To avoid dead units, before i start clocking up. i back up my BOINC directory.
Then, i run BOINC with network off. If a unit fail ... i go back to the back up version. That stop a lot of dirty data to get into Rosetta servers.

please follow this if overclocking.



Who?

again: Overclock at your own risk, i am not recommanding to do so.
I am responsable for my own postings, my employer is not involve in any of this.

3200!!!

I'm happy if my A64 3800+ gets me 320 a day!

Just waiting for those Intel 2Q07 price cuts... but Who? knows what is in store for third quarter?! Maybe even bigger and better things?

3200!!!

The actual workunits are getting low scores, if rosetta starts to crunch wu's more simple than you will have much more credits... than your RAC will be even more... more... well i don't have words for that... :o

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PS for Matt: I am still running without Hyperslowtransport.

Okay, that's getting annoying now. Could you give it a rest please?

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PS for Matt: I am still running without Hyperslowtransport.

Okay, that's getting annoying now. Could you give it a rest please?

why should i? The speed of the K8 never cam from it, it was just hyped this way. this myth need to be broken, Hyperslowtransport did not buy anything on the long run.

who?

Mostly depends on the memory bandwidth requirements. If you have an application which can run mostly in the cache, and there isn't much core:core communication, hypertransport will have little or no effect, as you're seeing here. Other applications will behave differently, for example, CPDN:SAP is a boinc project with extremely high memory bandwidth + latency requirements, and would probably behave differently. I note that Intel is planning to support hypertransport-like functionality in the future, I doubt they'd do that if it was just a waste of silicon.

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Intel's version of hypertransport is CSI (Common System Interface), delayed from it's original release circa 2007, but now officially announced at the Intel Developer Forum. Now due for release 2008/2009.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/21/intel_open_chips/

CSI is intended to destroy AMD's dominance in the 4x to 8x server sector, which AMD gained from the advantages hypertransport gives to this class of server.

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Intel's version of hypertransport is CSI (Common System Interface), delayed from it's original release circa 2007, but now officially announced at the Intel Developer Forum. Now due for release 2008/2009.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/21/intel_open_chips/

CSI is intended to destroy AMD's dominance in the 4x to 8x server sector, which AMD gained from the advantages hypertransport gives to this class of server.

CSI is a much better solution than Hyperslowtransport, the only common point it is that it is on chip. I am not going to comment, on desktop, hyperslowtransport showed how bad it is with GrandFather 4x4.

I am sick and tired of hearing people using Server workload to justify Hperslowtransport on desktop. 4x4 Fx74 and their motherboard is slower with 4 core than 2 core. what more do you need.


Again, with Hyperslowtransport enable, the GrandFather 4x4 is slower than its dual core version on games ... on Rosetta, it does not improve anything.

STOP USING SERVER WORKLOAD TO JUSTIFY HYPERSLOWTRANSPORT ON DESKTOP COMPUTER, IT IS STUPID!

oupsss, I forgot, if you look for carefully, the 1st x86 processor with integrated controler was a prototype called Timna, AMD did not invent anything: Timna picture

Stop giving credit to somebody who does not have it. Timna was what AMD is planning to do next year, a CPU + mem controler + GPU on a chip ... it turned out to be a not so good idea ... when you put you memory controler, your CPU and your GPU in the same die, you have to deal with the speed path of both.
Next year is going to be fun :):) are you ready for the very impressive 3800+ plus a X300 on the same chip ... it is my guess for the best they can do ...
for next year ... a 200$ PC: bye bye marging.

who?

I am fully responsable for this posting, my employer is not aware of it, and it does not ask me to post this. it is my own opinion.

I didn't say a word about desktop computers, or the 4x4 platform, why are you implying I did?

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