Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Rosetta@home on PS3?
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Volodimer Send message Joined: 8 Sep 06 Posts: 2 Credit: 778 RAC: 0 |
Does there exist a project on PS3 like Cure@PS3 for Folding@home? Robotgeek |
FluffyChicken Send message Joined: 1 Nov 05 Posts: 1260 Credit: 369,635 RAC: 0 |
Does there exist a project on PS3 like Cure@PS3 for Folding@home? Here at Rosett@home, no there is not. The only platforms Rosetta@home run on are the 4 official Boinc platform. Windows/x86 Linux/x86 and MacOS/x86&ppc Team mauisun.org |
Volodimer Send message Joined: 8 Sep 06 Posts: 2 Credit: 778 RAC: 0 |
Okay thanks, maybe in the near future, Rosetta will run on Cell processor ! Robotgeek |
FluffyChicken Send message Joined: 1 Nov 05 Posts: 1260 Credit: 369,635 RAC: 0 |
Okay thanks, maybe in the near future, Rosetta will run on Cell processor ! Most likely to be an XBOX360 first ;-) EDIT:/ Though if you can program for the Cell/PS3 or anyother platform I'm sure BOINC wouldn't mind you helping them get a portable client for it :-) Then I guess Rosetta@Home wouldn't mind either. I guess one of the main problems Rosetta@Home have is that they're generally resticted by what BOINC do. Folding@Home do not have that problem... Team mauisun.org |
sslickerson Send message Joined: 14 Oct 05 Posts: 101 Credit: 578,497 RAC: 0 |
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Matthew A. Thorns Send message Joined: 17 Jan 06 Posts: 1 Credit: 2,402,962 RAC: 0 |
I would have to agree. The Processing power of the PS3 would not only draw more attention to folding projects but many would be able to run more processing power. I do not use my main system for folding considering I already use high end processes for animation and game design. instead I use a spare machine which is not high end at all 1.7 Ghz 512Ram. My PS3 just sits there most of the time and I only play it when I have time which is not often. so much power wasted except for movies and games of course. Video Tribute Video About Rosetta |
David Baker Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 705 Credit: 559,847 RAC: 0 |
If folding@home can do it, why can't we...eventually ;) We need help from Sony to do this. they apparently had two people on this full time for a year for folding@home. anybody have connections there? |
Dotsch Send message Joined: 12 Feb 06 Posts: 111 Credit: 241,803 RAC: 0 |
If folding@home can do it, why can't we...eventually ;) PS3 Grid, SETI and Yoyo has a application for Linux on the PS3. SIMAP, SETI and Einstein a PPE only application for PS3 on Linux. |
svincent Send message Joined: 30 Dec 05 Posts: 219 Credit: 12,120,035 RAC: 0 |
There was a very interesting feature article in Nature earlier this year, describing the rivalry between two groups of researchers studying protein folding using molecular dynamics. Not quite the same as Rosetta: more along the lines of what Folding@home is doing. It's available online at http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080116/full/451240a.html (subscription required) Anyway there was a story in there about one research group maybe 15 or 20 years ago who, finding the speed of current computer hardware insufficient for their needs (like being too rich or too thin, it seems there's no such thing as having too much computational power when it comes to this stuff), decided to build their own supercomputer out of commercially available parts. They duly constructed the machine, modified their software to run on it, and started working on the first folding simulation, which took over two years. By the time it had finished the machine was obsolete: Moore's law had seen to it that general purpose hardware had caught up in terms of speed. I imagine the Baker group have this cautionary tale in mind as they weigh the pros and cons of porting R@h to run on specialized machines such as the PS3. |
Michael G.R. Send message Joined: 11 Nov 05 Posts: 264 Credit: 11,247,510 RAC: 0 |
I imagine the Baker group have this cautionary tale in mind as they weigh the pros and cons of porting R@h to run on specialized machines such as the PS3. That's a good point. If Rosetta@h really is much more complex than, for example, Folding@home, it could mean that the time it would take to port it would be long enough that by then the PS3 is on the way out and something like the PS4 is coming. That might not be the case, but certainly something to think about. Anyone know what the expected life of the PS3 is supposed to be? |
The_Bad_Penguin Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
Generally, about 6-7 years. And this is where the PS3 has the xBox beat. The PS3 uses the Cell processor. So does the IBM Blade Servers. And now, a stripped down version will start appearing in laptops. So, imho, time well invested, as it will not be "obsolete" in 2 years. |
Mod.Sense Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Aug 06 Posts: 4018 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Sean Kiely's post, revised to protect EMail address from SPAM. If folding@home can do it, why can't we...eventually ;) The group at Sony that worked with Stanford to develop folding@home on PS3 was: Sony Computer Entertainment America Research & Development Email: scea_rd at NOplaySPAMstation.sony.comERS (remove capital letters) Phone: 650.655.8000 Address: Sony Computer Entertainment America Research & Development 919 East Hillsdale Blvd., 2nd Fl. Foster City, CA 94404 Here's a link to the page at Sony R&D that discusses the project: http://research.scea.com/2006-09-folding@home/index.html I hope you are able to contact a sympathetic ear at Sony! Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense |
Colino Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 6 Credit: 12,148 RAC: 0 |
anything come out of this? |
The_Bad_Penguin Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
some of us are trying to feel out potential contacts, rather than just flying in blind... |
kuarl Send message Joined: 10 Nov 07 Posts: 3 Credit: 177,515 RAC: 0 |
Generally, about 6-7 years. if we think that cell processor probably will be the base of ps4 too, I think that investing on it is not a waste of time. I don't know what kind of algoritm are behind rosetta, but there is the cell MD library used in ps3-grid, that are library created for molecular dynamics simulation on cell processor. |
The_Bad_Penguin Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
We all know SCEA assists Folding@@Home, but just to further demonstrate having the right connections is everything... (still trying to work on my end) PS3GRID announces a collaboration with Sony Computer Entertainment Spain
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