Good point Darin, changed the sound to something simpler - added benefit of reducing the file size down to 1.5mb.

Thanks Feet1st - I added 3 more slides to try and explain a little more... let me know what you think.

Just use the links from above, I'll keep updating the presentation according to the feedback from this thread until we can turn it into something useable ;)

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"PowerPoint really needs to support mp3s"

I am running PowerPoint 2003. On my insert, Movies and Sound, sound from file option, I have the option of MP3. Just an FYI.

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Indeed it does! I added it as a looping transition sound, guess that wasn't the best of ideas ;)

Thanks for that tip, that opens up a lot of possibilities. Gone are the days of bad looping wavs and welcome to high quality audio. Although I don't think we can use copyrighted songs, even though this is non-profit.

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Would appreciate your feedback ;)

1) Nice presentation, good work!
2) What did you do to that files? I can open it with OpenOffice 1.1 in Linux, can browse through the slides but when i start the presenation OO crashes with signal 8 - floating point exception! *laugh*

$ openoffice rosetta_wide.pps 
Fatal exception: Signal 8
Stack:
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsal.so.3[0x40bac3ec]
...lots of other uninteresting stuff following...

I never had something like that, that's hillarious :)

No need to worry about that, my copy of Open Office is that old, it already started to smell... :)

Cheers, Alex.

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millions in that sort of thing for the last few years, and it is time it
should be stopped."
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Hi all,

What's going on with the easy install CD?
I would be glad to help, if needed. The Yahoo group looks dead to me, isn't it?

Just a thought: can we be less selfish, and tell the user about, and let the user select other BOINC projects too?


Itay

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Just a thought: can we be less selfish, and tell the user about, and let the user select other BOINC projects too?

Itay, thanks for joining the Yahoo! Group. Yes it has been pretty dormant there. Noone has taken up the initiative to head up the CD project. I have taken the stance that we need good documentation and other information such as changes to make the Rosetta website more receptive to new folks. And so I've been focused on those areas, in hopes that they lay the groundwork for the CD. Also hoping to see the videos reach completion.

As for being selfish... once we devise the technique, others could easily copy it for use with other projects. My idea for the CD is to make it very educational, informative, and helpful to really get people "involved" in the process... not just "enrolled". And I don't plan to develop content like that for more then one project. But the basic framework we come up with would be easily adapted, and I for one, would be willing to share it... once we have it :)

Also, many of the links and websites we would be including as references are used by all BOINC projects and will inform them of other projects. So, it's not entirely exclusive. But if Rosetta's volunteers are going to invest time into the content, reproduction and order handling; and money in to media, envelopes and postage, I don't see it as being any more selfish then the Cancer Society not co-promoting UNICEF and the March of Dimes... and Rosetta.

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Pretty cool slideshow :) Thought it was a tad slow though.
Does the project URL need the /roesetta at the end?

Also, the prefs by default are "use only when inactive for 3 minutes" and "don't leave in memory" which I would think results in much wasted time. Should tell new users somewhere to change atleast ONE of those (always run, or leave in memory, preferably both if they decide to snooze it)

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Sorry if I'm not posting this in the right place, but a few of us started a MySpace group for Rosetta@Home, with the hopes that it will eventually bring some new people to the project.

Here's the thread that started it all, and the MySpace group.

Cheers!

- trib'

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Sorry if I'm not posting this in the right place, but a few of us started a MySpace group for Rosetta@Home, with the hopes that it will eventually bring some new people to the project.

Here's the thread that started it all, and the MySpace group.

Cheers!

- trib'

why not put a link on the rosetta site ..........

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I think the only way to make media attention.
Invite some popular science TV channels or printed media to your project.
Let them show what we do.

Basicly the BBC boinc project (global climate model) became large because it got promoted on TV a few times if i remember wel.
Some breaktroughs some talks of how it works or new ideas about this calculation for Rosetta@home. Combine it with discusions why people join. And the people who work for Rosetta@home.


And how about Internet advertising for it ?.
A flash add could explain it all graphically
I know it would have some costs, but hmm you might in return get lots of interested people, if your add is on science sites, and medical sites.
for example new scientist, but also some non american science sites.
It would attract lot's of people

Perhaps turn it into a flash contest and use the wining add

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Ive been working on trying to get msfn.org to sign on. Which gives me the idea does anyone wanna try contacting different computer related sites to see if there interested in joining or atleast putting the word out...?? its worth a try.. ill keep ya updated!

I recently submitted a question/comment to dicoverychannel.com if they were going to cover any topics of how the average Joe could become involved in science and placed the suggestion to check out BOINC and Rosetta@home.

I also created a Group on www.facebook.com called "BOINC Researchers" (http://msu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2208317473) and working on advocating Rosetta@home and BOINC in general.

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Just throwing a few brain storms out there, but has the Rosetta@home project heads considered talking to various hospitals and what not? I am sure that they would love to donate their computers to this project. It is after all related in a manner. Just one idea. Also any feedback on Playstation 3? Those guys at Folding@Home stated that they saw a dramatic jump in TFLOPS thanks to it. I heard talk of X-Box 360 somewheres hearabouts.

One more thing would be the possibility of integrating it with a Google toolbar for Internet Explorer, or Yahoo toolbar similar to what Folding@Home did. Really can't go into dirty details as I have always been I BOINCer meself. Just another possibility. Basically the word needs to get out, the project sells itself basically so its the introduction that is the greatest challenge, and even that is not a challenge.

Just a few thoughts to share.

Antony

I posted informational threads concerning BOINC and Rosetta@home on Message Boards I frequent:

BOINC - Berkeley Open Infrastructure Network Computing

BOINC - Berkeley Open Infrastructure Network Computing

BOINC - Berkeley Open Infrastructure Network Computing



This YouTube is particularily good: PSA: BOINC - Berkeley Open Infrastructure Network Computing

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Not going to make much difference how many users you get if they have to wait days to get work units. It is silly to have to wait 6 days for a work unit. Finally get one, process it and go on waiting for another unit. I have P4 dual core running 3.15 GHz with 1.5 GB RAM and I sit and wait days for something to do.

If you are taking a server down for maintenance Grab something off the shelf and put it in it's place to send/receive work.

Excellent project with great goals, but if I cannot do work for you, I will be tempted to find a project that keeps my system busy. Please stop wasting my time!

Not going to make much difference how many users you get if they have to wait days to get work units. It is silly to have to wait 6 days for a work unit. Finally get one, process it and go on waiting for another unit. I have P4 dual core running 3.15 GHz with 1.5 GB RAM and I sit and wait days for something to do.

If you are taking a server down for maintenance Grab something off the shelf and put it in it's place to send/receive work.

Excellent project with great goals, but if I cannot do work for you, I will be tempted to find a project that keeps my system busy. Please stop wasting my time!

This is the exact reason why BOINC works so well. I have three backup projects for just this reason. Regardless of whether or not I am getting work from Rosetta I am always crunching for some project. And when Rosetta came back I started exactly where I left off. I didn't lose one second of Crunch time, not one cycle (even though I wasn't crunching for Rosetta).

Stick around here but sign up for some other projects as well and let BOINC do its job.

--Timothy

I myself is a contributor in the rosetta@home science project and I would like to see that Boinc gets installed on workplaces here in Sweden. Although, since some things concerns personal privacy and therefore security must be very high in some places, I guess that it isn't possible to install Boinc everywhere, unfortunately.

When it comes to computer security I believe and think it's very important for sceptics to be aware of the consequences of hacked servers and so on.

Can anyone in this forum answer if Boinc with Rosetta@home could cause serious security problems for companys or private people?

I as a person believe very strongly in high computer security, in fact it's one of my personal interests and that is why the question is interesting for me. I know how a computer firewall works and that Boinc needs a certain port to be open to be able to accept incoming and outgoing IP traffic.

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I myself is a contributor in the rosetta@home science project and I would like to see that Boinc gets installed on workplaces here in Sweden. Although, since some things concerns personal privacy and therefore security must be very high in some places, I guess that it isn't possible to install Boinc everywhere, unfortunately.

When it comes to computer security I believe and think it's very important for sceptics to be aware of the consequences of hacked servers and so on.

Can anyone in this forum answer if Boinc with Rosetta@home could cause serious security problems for companys or private people?

I as a person believe very strongly in high computer security, in fact it's one of my personal interests and that is why the question is interesting for me. I know how a computer firewall works and that Boinc needs a certain port to be open to be able to accept incoming and outgoing IP traffic.

I'm not aware of any security problems whatsoever in the history of Rosetta@home, so I think it should be quite safe

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Not going to make much difference how many users you get if they have to wait days to get work units. It is silly to have to wait 6 days for a work unit. Finally get one, process it and go on waiting for another unit. I have P4 dual core running 3.15 GHz with 1.5 GB RAM and I sit and wait days for something to do.

A quick look at your results indicates no failure to supply work. WU's arriving every day, no 6 day gaps.

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Bj?Johansson, the ports you may have read about are internal TCP ports used within the machine doing the crunching. They are used to communicate between the threads that do the crunching, and the BOINC manager. All normal activity to get work, and report results is done across port 80, the same port your internet browser uses. And this is done via the installed BOINC software, not the running Rosetta application.

When I say "normal activity", there is the rare case when errors occur on Windows that it will try to report the symbols tables. In that case, communication is still over port 80, but occurs directly from the Rosetta application.

If you could describe further the concerns you have about security, perhaps we could come up with some ways to address them.

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