Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home

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[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 2030 Credit: 10,080,621 RAC: 12,407	Message 109482 - Posted: 25 Jul 2024, 6:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 109481. Last modified: 25 Jul 2024, 6:59:13 UTC Servers being randomly up and down over a considerable period, it does need a thorough going over Let's hope they find and resolve everything... As i said in another thread, i don't know if the servers are the ones described in server status page, (maybe the page is not updated). But, if it was true, their sw are VERY old and no longer supported (File system: ZFS on Linux v0.7, OS: Ubuntu Server 16.04) The latest version of Ubuntu Server is 24.04 LTS and ZFS is 2.2.4 (now OpenZFS) I know, i know.....the update/upgrade of the servers are not easy and without worries, but maybe it's the time....[/i] ID: 109482 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 2030 Credit: 10,080,621 RAC: 12,407	Message 109485 - Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 15:22:00 UTC See you in September... ID: 109485 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2196 Credit: 41,919,457 RAC: 16,836	Message 109486 - Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 15:47:48 UTC - in response to Message 109482. Servers being randomly up and down over a considerable period, it does need a thorough going over Let's hope they find and resolve everything... As I said in another thread, I don't know if the servers are the ones described in server status page, (maybe the page is not updated). But, if it was true, their sw is VERY old and no longer supported (File system: ZFS on Linux v0.7, OS: Ubuntu Server 16.04) The latest version of Ubuntu Server is 24.04 LTS and ZFS is 2.2.4 (now OpenZFS) I know, I know.....the update/upgrade of the servers are not easy and without worries, but maybe it's time... I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems. so I'm inclined to think the information remains accurate... ID: 109486 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1758 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 473	Message 109487 - Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 22:42:42 UTC The lights are on, but is anybody home? It's been 3 weeks, and still no updated application over at Ralph. And here all but a couple of servers have been MIA for over a week. Grant Darwin NT ID: 109487 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

RDTSC Send message Joined: 29 Jan 24 Posts: 4 Credit: 1,272,630 RAC: 14,421	Message 109488 - Posted: 29 Jul 2024, 11:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 109487. On the plus-side, it's summer here, so less compute-Watts results in less cooling costs. ID: 109488 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 2030 Credit: 10,080,621 RAC: 12,407	Message 109490 - Posted: 29 Jul 2024, 16:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 109486. I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems... How many years ago?? :-P ID: 109490 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 276 Credit: 523,512 RAC: 744	Message 109491 - Posted: 29 Jul 2024, 18:50:55 UTC I have found another issue. When i open news board and switch to page 2 it becomes empty https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_forum.php?id=202&sort=5&start=50 ID: 109491 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1896 Credit: 9,869,046 RAC: 36,280	Message 109492 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 1:45:00 UTC - in response to Message 109482. But, if it was true, their sw are VERY old and no longer supported (File system: ZFS on Linux v0.7, OS: Ubuntu Server 16.04) The latest version of Ubuntu Server is 24.04 LTS and ZFS is 2.2.4 (now OpenZFS) I know, i know.....the update/upgrade of the servers are not easy and without worries, but maybe it's the time....[/i] The problem is all the tweaks that most projects put in often get moved around in the newer versions so the notes people left are often pretty useless without a lot of hunting and pecking to find where things are now. And then apparently some things are in multiple places so if you don't change them ALL things don't work like you want them too, In short it's far from smooth especially when some projects run thru Admins like water so putting it off until you can't wait any longer is often better than tackling it little by little over the next 6 months or more. ID: 109492 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2196 Credit: 41,919,457 RAC: 16,836	Message 109493 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 2:46:23 UTC - in response to Message 109490. I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems... How many years ago?? :-P You set me off to look. I think it was somewhere around June 2017 Does that match those software versions? ID: 109493 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 2030 Credit: 10,080,621 RAC: 12,407	Message 109494 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 7:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 109492. The problem is all the tweaks that most projects put in often get moved around in the newer versions so the notes people left are often pretty useless without a lot of hunting and pecking to find where things are now. And then apparently some things are in multiple places so if you don't change them ALL things don't work like you want them too The project has continuously problems. We are willing to bear the problems of a migration/upgrade. (they have also a beta project - Ralph - to try) ID: 109494 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1758 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 473	Message 109495 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 7:19:52 UTC - in response to Message 109493. I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems... How many years ago?? :-P You set me off to look. I think it was somewhere around June 2017 Does that match those software versions? Roughly. Ubuntu Server 16.04 was released on 21 April 2016. Grant Darwin NT ID: 109495 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 2030 Credit: 10,080,621 RAC: 12,407	Message 109496 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 9:50:28 UTC - in response to Message 109495. I think it was somewhere around June 2017 Does that match those software versions? Roughly. Ubuntu Server 16.04 was released on 21 April 2016. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.... ID: 109496 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Chooka Send message Joined: 25 Jan 17 Posts: 8 Credit: 11,908,741 RAC: 1,395	Message 109498 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 18:54:00 UTC Just switch to WCG while you wait. (or any other BOINC project) Problem solved :) ID: 109498 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Jean-David Beyer Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 202 Credit: 6,878,233 RAC: 10,771	Message 109499 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 20:24:35 UTC - in response to Message 109498. Just switch to WCG while you wait. (or any other BOINC project) Problem solved :) Denis has no work. CPDN has no work for Linux machines. WCG has work from time to time only for MCM1, but not the other four projects they pretend to support. ID: 109499 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 276 Credit: 523,512 RAC: 744	Message 109500 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 21:37:22 UTC GPUGrid doesn't have work for Windows. ID: 109500 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Chooka Send message Joined: 25 Jan 17 Posts: 8 Credit: 11,908,741 RAC: 1,395	Message 109502 - Posted: 31 Jul 2024, 18:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 109499. And I see one of our favourites, Universe@Home has also been down for a long time. Guess it's MCM then which is what I'm onto now. What about LHC if space is your thing? I don't run Linux so a VM is the hassle for me there. ID: 109502 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Gary Wyckoff Send message Joined: 7 Jun 18 Posts: 2 Credit: 5,113,621 RAC: 146	Message 109503 - Posted: 31 Jul 2024, 23:52:52 UTC - in response to Message 109502. I run LHC using VirtualBox - the free version. ID: 109503 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Gary Wyckoff Send message Joined: 7 Jun 18 Posts: 2 Credit: 5,113,621 RAC: 146	Message 109504 - Posted: 31 Jul 2024, 23:52:54 UTC - in response to Message 109502. I run LHC using VirtualBox - the free version. ID: 109504 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

CLIFF HANGER Send message Joined: 8 May 17 Posts: 2 Credit: 8,024,717 RAC: 15,131	Message 109506 - Posted: 1 Aug 2024, 18:28:59 UTC Haven't received any work units for two or three weeks now , what's up with that? ID: 109506 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0	Message 109508 - Posted: 1 Aug 2024, 21:46:22 UTC - in response to Message 109506. Haven't received any work units for two or three weeks now , what's up with that? Rosetta is no longer consistent with work. They use their AI for most stuff now. So it's hit and miss here. You can find other tasks related to bio science if you look. DENIS@home is about a very technical model that has to do with heart function. SiDock is a drug exploration project. They are working on something for Ebola now. GPU Grid is a medical project as well. Outside of BOINC you can try folding at home. They get work from universities who take models from Baker Lab, not necessarily stuff we have worked on. I think the rest keep it in house for doing their research. What's left here is astronomy, physics and high level math as you are already attached to a few of them. ID: 109508 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote