I simply stated facts.

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Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

We should restrict registering to invites-only to reduce spam posts.
Projects that have implemented registration protection:
https://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/
https://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/

We should restrict registering to invites-only to reduce spam posts.
Projects that have implemented registration protection:
https://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/
https://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/

Restricting posts in most of the forums to users who have finished running at least one hour of work should also give such results.

ONE forum to asking and answering questions about how to complete that one hour should be enough for the users is needed, though. Those who use that one forum to post spam can then be restricted from posting anything at all.

I simply stated facts.

This forum is for Issues with Rosetta@home.
If you want to post just for the sake of posting, then make use of the Cafe Rosetta forum- that's what it is there for.

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Grant
Darwin NT

We should restrict registering to invites-only to reduce spam posts.
Projects that have implemented registration protection:
https://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/
https://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/

I think invite-only will deflect more prospective crunchers from project comparing to spam posts.. Maybe adding couple more moderators will help

It would be better to restrict posting based on RAC.. But allow some forum for tech questions if possible

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I've set no new tasks again. The current jobs have 8 hours as their runtime, but here, they are running for three times that, (4GHz i7), which is pushing my system into panic mode.

Check your system resources, what all is using your memory and CPU?
Your processor is also very old.
Launched August 5, 2015
Discontinued March 4, 2019 (desktop processors)


Maybe you should put a restriction on how many active tasks you have going at one time.

But look, everyone offers your suggestions and you say everything is working fine, I don't want to mess with anything. Then you come here and complain about this or that. So why do we even bother answering you anymore? You don't listen. If Grant says something needs to change, then listen to him. If you don't then your system will just continue to be "slow" or whatever the problem is now.


I think your processor is to slow for these high level tasks.
I have a AMD Ryzen 7 and I have no trouble chewing up these tasks.

You have lost 5 tasks to Time Out because you can not complete all the tasks you download in the 3 day period the project has given you to process the tasks. So again, the idea of restricting the amount of Rosetta work or other project work seems to make sense. Whatever it is, other projects, processor speed, something is slowing you down. You have a 2 day turn around time. You have 3 days to download, process and report back a task.

Grant might have some suggestions or thoughts, but on the other hand maybe he is is tired of suggesting things and being ignored.

Good luck figuring it out, I'm out of ideas.

I've set no new tasks again. The current jobs have 8 hours as their runtime, but here, they are running for three times that, (4GHz i7), which is pushing my system into panic mode.

This is not true. If it was true things would be slightly better, but still not ideal.

All your completed Rosetta tasks are running approximately 43,200 seconds, which is 12hrs target runtime, not the 8 hours Rosetta default.
This isn't a massive problem in itself. I switched to 12hrs too so I get a bit more from the rare amount of tasks we get nowadays, but it's simple to change that if you want (and if it's what you thought was already happening).

But the much bigger problem is your PC is taking between 72.000 and 116,000 secs, which is between 20 & 32hrs to run just 12hrs of Boinc work.

Tasks are taking that long because of 'not-Boinc' activity on your PC, not Boinc activity.

You need to change "use at most xx% of CPU time" so that the %age is much higher than (I'm guessing) your 40-50%.

Every higher % will reduce the time <you> tell Boinc to <not> work on tasks and take longer to complete.

If you're anxious about the effect of doing so, try 75% for a while, then edge it up another 5% if you notice no problems and stop when you reach a level of processing you're comfortable with, while reducing task runtime to completion.

This will solve the <entirety> of your problems, while (coincidentally) massively increasing your contribution to <all> the projects you run within your preferred settings.

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This will solve the <entirety> of your problems, while (coincidentally) massively increasing your contribution to <all> the projects you run within your preferred settings.

He's running Folding at home as well.
He asked about this issue 4 years ago and ignored all advice as to how to fix it. He asked about it again about a month or so back, and once again refused to take any advice on how to resolve it.
He just likes to whinge about things he's not prepared to do anything about- ie Look in Task manager to see exactly what processes are using CPU time, and then limiting the number of cores/threads BOINC can use so it's not impacted by those used by Folding.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I'd like to comment.

I see a problem, a problem that I should not be seeing. I try to make headway to resolve it, so ask. The result of asking each time is the same, basically, the BOINC folk tell me the problem is Folding, the Folding folk tell me it is not.

I have set no new tasks at both. I would seem to face a choice, I can support one or the other. Both are important to me.

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Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Project seems to be alive now

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Project seems to be alive now

And i report some wus over the deadline.
I don't know if they will consider these as valid

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That's not our problem. This is a Rosetta place not a Folding. It's not our issue. Take it up with Folding.
And you dilemma is for you to figure out, we don't need to know nor do we care about your dilemma. That is your alone to figure out.

I'd like to comment.

I see a problem, a problem that I should not be seeing. I try to make headway to resolve it, so ask. The result of asking each time is the same, basically, the BOINC folk tell me the problem is Folding, the Folding folk tell me it is not.

I have set no new tasks at both. I would seem to face a choice, I can support one or the other. Both are important to me.

And again, not a word from the project.
Wonder what it was this time.

i notice the very low update rate ~25KB/s

and the "waiting for validation" about the results just uploaded ...

somes are validated now

État de l'exécution
Travail

Tasks ready to send 78401
Tâches en cours 112944
Workunits waiting for validation 21612
Workunits waiting for assimilation 5284
Workunits waiting for file deletion 0
Tasks waiting for file deletion 0
Transitioner backlog (hours) 0.00
Utilisateurs

With credit 1379962
With recent credit 15782
Registered in past 24 hours 2
Ordinateurs

With credit 4530477
With recent credit 32018
Registered in past 24 hours 7
Current GigaFLOPS 132514

Project seems to be alive now

And i report some wus over the deadline.
I don't know if they will consider these as valid

I would hope so. The site hasn't been up to reallocate the tasks to anyone else, so we should get credit even having missed deadline as we're the first to return the task.

That said, I wonder if any of the new tasks being issued might be resends... might be worth checking within an hour or two.

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État de l'exécution
Travail

Tasks ready to send 78401
Tâches en cours 112944
Workunits waiting for validation 21612
Workunits waiting for assimilation 5284
Workunits waiting for file deletion 0
Tasks waiting for file deletion 0
Transitioner backlog (hours) 0.00
Utilisateurs

With credit 1379962
With recent credit 15782
Registered in past 24 hours 2
Ordinateurs

With credit 4530477
With recent credit 32018
Registered in past 24 hours 7
Current GigaFLOPS 132514

Hopefully this is just a reflection of all the tasks being returned now the site is back up.
Most of my tasks aren't validated yet, but some are.

I have got one weird one though:

Completed, can't validate

Edit: It's just changed while I was typing this to validated and credited.
That's weird - never seen that happen before.

Sounds like we need to be a little patient as everything gets processed.

Edit 2: I refreshed the page again and loads more of my tasks were Validated.
We should definitely give the site a chance to blast through them

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Project seems to be alive now

And I report some wus over the deadline.
I don't know if they will consider these as valid

I would hope so. The site hasn't been up to reallocate the tasks to anyone else, so we should get credit even having missed deadline as we're the first to return the task.

That said, I wonder if any of the new tasks being issued might be resends... might be worth checking within an hour or two.

I've got 15 tasks returned after deadline and they've all validated and credited.
I have a further 6 awaiting validation.

Just checking further, the tasks I returned after deadline have been reissued to other users 10 minutes before I returned them.
One of the reissues has been cancelled by the Server. The others haven't.

Which tells me that any tasks we're downloading may fall into the same bracket.

My understanding is that if the tasks haven't been started, they will be cancelled by the server. <But>
If they have been started they'll run to completion and <be awarded no credit> because the previous user has already been awarded them!

This is all getting a bit ugly.

Check the status of all your tasks online, people...

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I'd like to comment.

I see a problem, a problem that I should not be seeing. I try to make headway to resolve it, so ask. The result of asking each time is the same, basically, the BOINC folk tell me the problem is Folding, the Folding folk tell me it is not.

I have set no new tasks at both. I would seem to face a choice, I can support one or the other. Both are important to me.

This is not a problem with Boinc. It is not a problem with Folding. It is a problem with your configuration which is preventing the two projects, which have no way of knowing the other is there, from working together.

You have been given the configuration changes required, all that’s needed now is for you to try them.