A very Happy New Year to all!

Thanks, to you too!

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am i still hung-over from new year's and reading this wrong, or is a quadcore q6600 earning about 80,000 boinc points / day over at Collatz?

wtf?!

is this a gpu project?

am i still hung-over from new year's and reading this wrong, or is a quadcore q6600 earning about 80,000 boinc points / day over at Collatz?

wtf?!

is this a gpu project?

Yes Collatz is a gpu project and those with the higher end gpu's can earn some fantastic numbers! I currently have 5 gpu's over there and am getting in the 66,000 RAC range. Collatz also will use your cpu is you set it that way, but the cpu units take longer to run.

Amazing.

I'm all for use of PS3's and gpu's, but I won't even "go there" on the issue of credit parity.

Amazing.

I'm all for use of PS3's and gpu's, but I won't even "go there" on the issue of credit parity.

'Credit parity' there is NO 'credit parity', as to whether there should be any is the cause for many a heated discussion. Some say yes absolutely, others say, why? If Project A wants to give twice as much as other projects, let it, is one side of the discussion. I am not sure which side I fall on, I kind of like the autonomy that each doing there own thing gives. But I can also see that fewer average people will stay at some of the more Science oriented projects if they don't keep their own credits up.

On one of the links re Collatz and credits, there were some crunchers who were (accidently?) awarded credits in the tens of millions (78m) for a work unit.

Does a project have the "right" to award credits as it sees fit? IMHO, "yes".

However, does a stats site (BoincStats, etc.) have the corresponding "right" to exclude certain projects from their calculations? IMHO, also "yes".

Would be interesting if a stats site were to (be created) keep separate stats and rankings based on pc (x86,ppc, etc), ps3, and gpu's.

Do/Could Boinc projects that use both pc and gpu's report these stats separately?

Ok, now I've "gone there"...

I wouldn't object to a site like Boincstats attributing a correction factor to each project according to its 'worthiness'. Obviously that's arbitrary, but it's not partial. Projects (or users of projects) could lobby with their reasoning for asking for a certain factor, but there should be an impartial arbiter, and a site like Boincstats (or equivalent) would be an ideal place for that to happen it seems to me.

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On one of the links re Collatz and credits, there were some crunchers who were (accidently?) awarded credits in the tens of millions (78m) for a work unit.

Does a project have the "right" to award credits as it sees fit? IMHO, "yes".

However, does a stats site (BoincStats, etc.) have the corresponding "right" to exclude certain projects from their calculations? IMHO, also "yes".

Would be interesting if a stats site were to (be created) keep separate stats and rankings based on pc (x86,ppc, etc), ps3, and gpu's.

Do/Could Boinc projects that use both pc and gpu's report these stats separately?

Ok, now I've "gone there"...

I think they could separate the stats, I am not sure they do right now. I mean each project knows what kind of unit each machine is returning, so that should be fairly easy. As to the stats sites, I am guessing if they got the data they could show it.

I wouldn't object to a site like Boincstats attributing a correction factor to each project according to its 'worthiness'. Obviously that's arbitrary, but it's not partial. Projects (or users of projects) could lobby with their reasoning for asking for a certain factor, but there should be an impartial arbiter, and a site like Boincstats (or equivalent) would be an ideal place for that to happen it seems to me.

I think any stats site could do whatever they would like to do with the numbers, if people don't like it they just won't go there. On each projects webpage under your account, there are several stats sites listed that rotate everytime you see them. I have one I like and one I use when it is down, but I have visited them all, and I also have a boincstats account.

i really prefer the idea that projects "police themselves", rather than have a need for an "impartial arbiter".

however, there are times when projects may not be willing to "police themselves", and such a need is required.

i can only watch as my ranking continues to decrease after adding a spanking new core i7, due to a project that hands out tens of thousands of points per day for use of a gpu.

do gpu's really "earn" that amount of credit?

but then again, $2.25 and a million credits will get you on the NYC subway...

i really prefer the idea that projects "police themselves", rather than have a need for an "impartial arbiter".

however, there are times when projects may not be willing to "police themselves", and such a need is required.

i can only watch as my ranking continues to decrease after adding a spanking new core i7, due to a project that hands out tens of thousands of points per day for use of a gpu.

do gpu's really "earn" that amount of credit?

but then again, $2.25 and a million credits will get you on the NYC subway...

I know that a gpu takes about an hour to crunch one unit while a cpu can take about 20 hours to do the same thing, this is on Collatz. And NO cpu and gpu units are not the same, each has to be crunched by its own type of processor. Although there are some instances of Boinc offloading the gpu unit to the cpu due to power settings changes in Windows7. They were noticed due to the extreme length of crunching time. As with the cpu points are generated by the amount of work a given processor does, now whether it is calculated the same I do not know.

And the DC subway is more expensive, it can cost more than 10 bucks to ride both ways in rush hour!

yeah, thats why i try to travel "off-peak" when in dc, lol...

oh, purchased a dozen ps3 "fatty's" ("slims" can't load/run linux) to go with my existing four. be interesting to see if i can get a 16-node ps3 linux beowulf cluster up and running...

And the DC subway is more expensive, it can cost more than 10 bucks to ride both ways in rush hour!

yeah, thats why i try to travel "off-peak" when in dc, lol...

oh, purchased a dozen ps3 "fatty's" ("slims" can't load/run linux) to go with my existing four. be interesting to see if i can get a 16-node ps3 linux beowulf cluster up and running...

And the DC subway is more expensive, it can cost more than 10 bucks to ride both ways in rush hour!

Are you trying to compete with the military? They did the same thing, they also bought a bunch of game machines as their new 'super computer'.

Affording all 2,200 of those PS3's is one thing; affording the electricity to continuously run them 24/7/52 is completely a horse of a different color...

(but nice to dream about !)

Are you trying to compete with the military? They did the same thing, they also bought a bunch of game machines as their new 'super computer'.

Affording all 2,200 of those PS3's is one thing; affording the electricity to continuously run them 24/7/52 is completely a horse of a different color...

(but nice to dream about !)

Are you trying to compete with the military? They did the same thing, they also bought a bunch of game machines as their new 'super computer'.

Hey we are both from the US, we are paying for theirs already, you can afford a bit more. I pay around 500 a month just for electricity now, about 250 or so more than my neighbors, you can do that too, can't you?!!!

thats assuming that with all of my existing crunchers i am already not paying much more than my neighbors, lol !!! just imagine how much all those other ps3's would add...

thats assuming that with all of my existing crunchers i am already not paying much more than my neighbors, lol !!! just imagine how much all those other ps3's would add...

Only a couple dollars, really just get yourself a part-time job and you will have plenty of money! Heck you probably have enough already, don't you? Maybe you could use some of the unspent vacation money.

Too late, going to China for a month in March...

Maybe you could use some of the unspent vacation money.

going to learn your communist party lines?
or go get a super fast computer for cheap.

Too late, going to China for a month in March...

Maybe you could use some of the unspent vacation money.

looking to procure a little red book... and maybe some other things in HK...

going to learn your communist party lines?
or go get a super fast computer for cheap.